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A tale of 2  Yunus luncheonTables –one week deadline before Yunus team review in Dhaka of UK booktour and next actions for http://yunussocialactiongroup.org

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Who would have thought that within 4 days of meeting Yunus one RAC table would come up with a 2008 program inviting every CEO in the land to luncheons telling the story of how their global sectors’ badwill economics have been rumbled. We now know that since the birth of the internet – and its capacity to reduce degrees of separation to zero on life critical actions – most of their companies and disfunctional brand leadership teams haven’t collaborated for one second on ending poverty with their deepest sector knowledge. They have been rumbled by the dynamic duo of Dr Yunus and Bill Gates. The reputations of their brands will be shredded unless they get collaborating. Watch out for each month’s goodwill news of emerging Grameen Brand partnerships: Grameen Credit Agricole this week. See how the old financial model by 2 French economists in yesetrdays FT http://www.ft.com/cms/s/59266a6c-e090-11dc-b0d7-0000779fd2ac.html  is being exposed for the disgrace – and loss of sustainability of – humanity that it has compounded.

Entrepreneurs may wish to compare this with my dad’s 1984 writing that macroeconomics as the mainstay of mass mediated democracy has become disgraceful political chicanery quite capable of ending the world if our 1984-2024 generation globalise vicious system spirals around its wrong ways round. (Antidote forecast in chapter 6 : nobel economist inspires the world to replicate 30000 community up projects –ask mostofa for the smiling yunus photo of jan 3 on receiving that old news)

Robert
I think you are exactly right to be concerned. The problem with every open source method is that it can be adopted and then turned round to even be the opposite of what its origin was
Robert would you be happy to be a contacts person for cataloguing big abuses of microcredit?. We might only send you a mail very occasionally as chief cataloguer but we need such a central hub of intelligence. If I understand correctly this is also darline's speciality but while she gets her phd approved by professors its hard for her to be at the centre of such controversail news gathering
More generally this is why Yunus' loyalest supporters are encouraging him to put Grameen on good partnerships that do microcredit the correct way. Grameen Credit Agricole for example. Of course a question vital for londoners is what will furst Grameen UK partner operation be and can we keep it people forum governed?
Classic Expoentials Mapping case studies 7 years into alan book's research
The risk to the world's most collaborative models for renewing humanity will always be that others blindly or deliberately profess to adopt them and then do 180 degree vicious spiralling with them. One reason why millions of yunus forum citizens are needed everywhere to be the jury that stops all such less than whole truth practices of microcredit as soon as they are started
I myself was appalled by the story of pierre omidyar that the new yorker tells- i9t shows how a big headed entrepreneur who writes one brilliant bit of programming code believes he can do better than yunus' 30 years of work with . It is typical of west coast having first play with everything internet and doing so in ways that have zero context for the majority of the world's people. It is of course where the battle of future capitalism versus creative capitalism will be won or lost
cheers chris
http://yunusuni.com what oxford union debates does Yunus Uni need to be epicentre of?

Robert de Quelen  wrote 24 Feb 2008:
I was walking on the Paris grand boulevards a few days ago when my attention was caught by giant posters displayed in Benetton's shop windows.  The posters were shamelessly taking credit for their micro-credit action in Africa, with posters of beneficiaries etc. While I do not mind multinational companies doing some PR around their social action (like Danone with the Danone-Grameen project and Zizou for the celebrity angle), iI couldn't help finding Benetton's approach crude and even disingenuous. I fear this commercial exploitation of CSR should be denounced lest they drag down the whole concept of miro-credit in its shame. The role of micro-credit is after al to alleviate poverty, NOT to sell more pullovers. This may only foster more cynicism amon the wider public.
Am I too extremist or do you share these views and concerns?
Robert de Quelen
And what of the other table? The table which on January 3 Yunus Forum team’s year long preparations in 2007 were being debriefed:  the Uk collaboration commitment for 2008 to join up all its citizen tools be these conferences, virtual platforms, film-making, project action hubs, social debrief meetings every day of Londoners’ week, academic silos .... The table whose request to Yunus to help gravitate this was that Dhaka build one global portal around collaboration and ending poverty so that every be the change concern could feed into and be fed by its social actions. Well it’s silos as usual at this table.  It seems unable to use email across its participants while coyly sending me bibs and bobs which it blames me if I relay on and blames me if I don’t. So let’s take me it out of it having summarised what each you have or haven’t told me. Report to mostofa cc each other what yunus is inspiring you to do before the end of the month if you want Dhaka team to be aware of what londoners/UK citizens can do. Something they are debriefing in their own way during the first week of march as part of taking http://yunussocialactiongroup.org/  to the next level as the world’s windows on Yunus.

Mark has gone off on http://www.businessunusual.org.uk/ Previously he had filmed several of us within 24 hours of individually committing promises to yunus on 3 questions:
1 what inspired you in Yunus book; what will you do differently for rest of life cos of yunus book; how can we as hi-trust mapmakers help the 5 people in Dhaka whose methods 6.5 billion people need rapid peer to peer to use if sustainability is to be globalisation’s purpose.

Tav is committing to end of June primarily on convergence around Yunus through all the networks he has spent 7 years of adult youth building. His
http://www.socialaction.tv comes outs soon displaying yunus videos in a way that you can vote for their how to connect their seminal messages on how to do every system thing another way round. A suggestion which those at Yunus LSE public talk will recall drew 2 standing ovations from precisely tab’s generation of peoples.

Mostofa is committing to interactively funnel any of your action promises to Dhaka . He is also preparing to be one of 600 Clinton University alumni in New Orleans next month
Brixton hubber Mamading and friends, thanks to the world entrepreneur summit dinner that the Harding family staged , is continuing his relationship building with John Bird who is oraganising a Westminster gathering of networks uniting round the identity the Big Movement in march. The world entrepreneur summit was also where 475 yunus book club was launched with a personal letter inviting feedback from Dr Yunus himself. Mostofa is also taking Bangladeshi Forum connections up to the next level; relevant to know is that Dr Yunus will regularly come back to New York and London cos of the huge Bangla communities there. In fact his start of Uk booktour week was actually spent with the Queens New York Bangla community doing 2 things; opening America ’s first bank for the unbanked, and arranging permanent annual intern exchange schemes between York University students and Grameen HQ. Fortunately our man in New York , Peter Burgess, was on the job and spotted by Grameen America ’s team as keeping up the good connecting between New York and London ’s twin Yunus cities.

I didnt quite catch what Brixton hubber Lesley posed as the final question to yunus of the RAC lunch but I assume it was something to do her London First 20 Yunus commitment to connecg Africa Diaspora groups and banking for the poorest african communities. Lesley also has the best connections of any of us with Blecher’s free University , a hot house for social action and business experiments thanks in part to the Branson-mandela-Yunus elders network. This is cool as she’s also on the 3 person editorial team aimed at offering students bursaries if they wish to re-edit world citizen guides to yunus, Blecher, or Gandhi Montessori. Our nomination of Sunita Gandhi’s work for replicating cross-cultural peace among 7 to 11 year old peers of the world got to the finals of the ted prize competition. I guess another year we can try to win-win-win something!

Guilhem Buzt was at the start of 2007, tav’s chief commercialisation adviser for 24 days and weeks of collaboration. His connections between London and France can be huge since Yunus book is launched in the French language next month and so far with Grameen Credit Agricole and Danone and an unamed French water company Paris leads the world cup of multinational Social Business: 3 to zero. Guilhem also commits to recycle prior regulation experience from work at the EU as far as helping regulate Social Business may be relevant.

Darline continues to finish off her phd on certifying the ethics of microcredit and exploring how to connect LSE students (or faculty) after their rapturous reception of his work. Interestingly one of Yunus’ wealthiest Norwegian/Nobel supporters (also father of the Green Children pop group) has collated all the evidence needed that Yunus operated microcredit sustains far deeper end poverty progress in communities than franchises that have no direct connection with Yunus. This is why you will see so many Grameen’s popping up locally around the world wherever hi-trust partners have been brokered by Yunus top level peace circles.

Sabine and Lilly presumably continue to connect their 700 St James community. It would do no harm at all to send out the social action questionnaire for piloting. Notably this also connects with the postit boards that Sofia and Lesley erected in several locations at St James as an example of a communications tool that citizens sans frontiers can use in pooling what collaboration projects they are testing out for Yunus

Patrick Moore is committing to a season of open spaces around Yunus related invitations to come and be the right people in line with the yunus forum value; impossible becomes possible if right time place people actions

Apologies if flow and I have left anyone out or got your promises 5% out of kilter. Re-edit them so that Mostofa understands what you are connecting. Then we can make sure the correct postcards from London are posted at Yunus Uni
http://yunusuni.com

Ta Chris Macrae –let’s wake up or kill off the BBC ’s Social Business Model
us tel 301 881 1655

Lilly- Naturally delighted to discuss/hear more


Of course the big deal would be to work out how to develop a model good enough for Yunus to want a Grameen UK. I dont myself feel that I understand "the unbanked" in the Uk or microcredit well enough to be influential in that, especially with only being able to be in London about 20 days a year. But do go for it if any of you do, and at some stage Peter and I can chat up Vidar and say he has inspired Londoners to do what he has started - obviously it would help if we could get a Norwegian Tom Hunter in London to join in or is that  Mo Ibrahim.


I recall that eg patrick knows Phyllis and of course the Bangladeshi in London are one of the most formidable groups of Bangladeshi anywhere if we fully recognised that. Mostofa and Shafi Chowdhury to mention but two could help make intros


Delighted Lilly that you in the midst of such stuff. I am sure that St James is a very strong village for good/sustainability models within London.. I wonder if there are other villages (inside London) ready to team up with Yunus. Perhaps that is one way we could look at developing the Yunus1000 Forum which Mostofa is still expecting Dhaka will give us permission to do in London later in the year


Some of the ideas of Yunus 1000 Forum


Survey action projects and communities before the event in such a way that their projects are catalogued, published and celebrated at the event


Mix up 3 audiences that havent been assembled to together before, say:


300 Bangladeshi


600 Londomers - eg 200 teams of 3 each with a socila action project or emrging social business


100 business people or others with budget, or power


I think with at least 8 weeks notice of that, Yunus is now famous enough to be the gravity that attracts such a meeting if we all wholly collaborated in connecting our networks and communities to that end. This was the subject of Mostofa's internship last summer in Dhaka


There are two ways of looking at recent events in London. Doing yunus 1000 in a way that forms a lasting community - not just one more large meeting with little project afterlife is now 1) easier or 2) harder than if the book-week had never happened. I suppose it depends in part how able we are to get back in touch with all who attended the st james meeting as well as link other audeinces that found yunus in London unforgettable (eg cliffird chnace, all the substreams of LSE... where perhaps Lord Giddens could be talked into lending a hand). You'd think it would link with Blecher's CIDA in London as well as the Montesorri Gandhi sisters


I honestly dont know. Clearly a partnership with the Big Movement would also be desirable, as might Lesley's Diaspora groups. Then there is channel 4's  Alagiah's fair trade activism - a really gracious member of the st james audience. 


We need some of mark's videos showing how genuinely Yunus wants to get networks that could be more than their parts in a city to start recycling the social business dollar in the way that one time philanthropy doolar never reaches. I assume that most of you having met the man feel that but its hard to convey to people who havent met him personally.


We have been told that this 2 minutes with Londoners was one of Yunus' favourite memories from New York http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juraASgeg8I It goes back to up to 6.5 billion beings needing to be empowered by laying with open sourcing Yunus models and 5 people in Dhaka inviting them to do so. The world's deepest atlas of trust maps of networks to build to and fro at the speed of the net- you might have thought this is the killer app of the web that Berners Lees alumni have always dreamed of, but then when it comes meta-collaboration above zero-sum there's dreaming and practising (Yunus' special flow).


We haven't begun to do what we promised we would which is look at every social network tool where one or more of us have traction i-genius, justmeans, facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Yunus/7844344629   , ned etc and work out what is the yunus community that can be connected withing the box and then across the boxes. Again if virtual wizards cannot do that with the number 1 colloaboration agent and open framework giftmaker of all time, it is "obvious" that they never will web virtual modes truly collaboratively. Equally, dont forget sitting in Dhaka behing the evolving Yunus portal http://yunussocialactiongroup.org/ is the most remarkable permissionmaker who has now met Gates, heads of Google, Intel, Cisco to name but 4 and with yunus told them that the internet hasnt yet been tried out on Base of Pyramid apps (someting having worked for many years with Prahalad he and yunus can say straight to these west coast heads like no others)


The thing how good/fast/interfacing is our best flow at each of these different sorts of competences:

microcredit

virtual modes

real open space and cafe modes

social business modelling

youth social action hubs and permissions

cross-cultural joy (have you ever seen anyone thread cultuures like yunus does)

real interest in the poor

the many different types of teambuilding of which brand do now projects is clearly unpractised by most of you, and thus an extremely expensive lack of competence

etc


I have asked some of the above for nearly 2 years now (when our surveys first showed how yunus was a collaboration flow unlike any other existing or likely to exist in time to turn round sustainability;s tipping points http://www.normanmacrae.com/netfuture.html ) and got very mixed answers -even extremely inconsistent ones from individuals through time. Doubtless this is caused in large part cos many of us have been trapped in putting all our energies into chapter 1 systems that never could collaborate or return our deepest efforts. This comes back to an awkward need to understand systems interfaces in practical ways that old systems theory and facilitation methods have actually handicapped us in the west from doing -for example George Por bless his cotton socks teaches all his alumni the wrong (not open enough) practices of community. Ed and I went to the most ridiculous Amsterdam proof of that folly folloowing up the very first colaboration cafe in Islington 7 years ago.


Satyagraha cuurricula 101 years on: It does concern me that we connect with the correct Gandhian eastern system mappers and not the false consciousness gurus and social fashion makers of be the change who have never read gandhi's diaries or understood how his network maps built up. Anyone who believes that system transformation does not involve extremely creative disruption of media - as well as peer to peer youth edu models - is deluding others however much psychobabble they have retreated into.


  Yunus is a happy emotionally and socially (ie communally) intelligent banker cos he's confident that in every loan micro or macro he has made he was trying with zero future conflict to cultivate people's productive capability and search solutions out openly not own them. Its very subtle what the truth banking entrepreneur does- particularly if he is just about the only 30 years grassroots up exemplar of this kind. The only bank you'd want a relationship with! If we fail to capture the grassroots up and heroic people truths of the organsiation behind his brand, we will have failed Yunus utterly now.


chris macrae

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